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Thursday, September 10, 2009

Who’s the Liar? The Obama-Joe Wilson Illegal Immigrants’ Healthcare Tirades; the Problem Pelosi & Democrats Removed Key Provisions from Bill

Who’s the Liar? The Obama-Joe Wilson Illegal Immigrants’ Healthcare Tirades; the Problem Pelosi & Democrats Removed Key Provisions from Healthcare Bill to KEEP Undocumented from using the System:
By Marc Chamot

“If I’m a betting man, even though things don’t look too spiffy for Joe Wilson at this moment, but he will come out way ahead in the near future. He will spark up the right leaning moderates to take on Obama’s left leaning ideologies.”

Okay, a very heated Republican congressman yelled out “you lie’ to the president of the United States, when Obama swore that no illegal immigrants would get healthcare.

I agree it was kind of disrespectful. But it’s not like President Obama hasn’t shot off the cuff remarks before, right?

But here is the problem that I have with Obama’s argument, even though hordes of pundits are saying it’s true, that undocumented aliens would not receive healthcare, the Democrats have REMOVED provisions from the healthcare bill to help MONITOR and check the legality of statuses of people using the proposed healthcare systems.

Actually, they even went further, to PROHIBIT the questioning resident statuses of people using the healthcare systems, and the requiring PROOF of Social Security numbers, if folks don’t have them.

This is another BIG problem that I saw with Obama’s speech last night.

He wants to CREATE a fining system for folks who don’t buy into this public healthcare system, until they end up using it. So most Americans like you and me, we all have medical records, social security numbers, so the government will be on us with levied fines if we do not pay into the system, when we end up using it in time of need.

But an illegal alien, who don’t have social security numbers and medical records to track back to, they WILL NOT BE FINED, but they will get to use the healthcare system FOR FREE.

Republicans wanted to put this provision in the healthcare, but Nancy Pelosi and her cohorts voted against it, and had it removed.

Well, here it is; "Mr. President, that idea must have been tucked under a stack of background briefing papers over there in the corner of the table because the Congressional Research Service (CRS) says this about H.R. 3200, the Obamacare bill approved just before the recess by the House Energy and Commerce Committee chaired by Rep. Henry Waxman, D-CA:

“Under H.R. 3200, a ‘Health Insurance Exchange’ would begin operation in 2013 and would offer private plans alongside a public option...H.R. 3200 does not contain any restrictions on noncitzens-whether legally or illegally present, or in the United States temporarily or permanently-participating in the Exchange.”


CRS also notes that the bill has no provision for requiring those seeking coverage or services to provided proof of citizenship. So, absent some major amendments to the legislation and a credible, concrete enforcement effort in action, looks like the myth on this issue is the one being spread by Obama, Reid, Pelosi, et. al. "

So is Joe Wilson right or wrong about Obama? If Democrats refuse to place these provisions and safeguards in the bill, it’s because for an obvious reason, they DO want undocumented to use the healthcare systems. They just think we're FOOLs don't they?

Secondly, I don’t think any American in their right mind would want the government to have total control of ones’ medical records, right? That’s what public healthcare is, these records may someday become public RECORDS.

So who is the real liar here?

Rep. Joe Wilson, Presidential Heckler
By Randy James Thursday, Sep. 10, 2009
It was the heckle heard 'round the world — or at least all over cable news. As President Barack Obama addressed a Joint Session of Congress on health care reform Sept. 9, Rep. Joe Wilson broke the chamber's strict etiquette by yelling out "You lie!" after the President (accurately) noted that his proposed health care benefits would not extend to illegal immigrants. With those two words, the South Carolina Republican transformed into a national political figure (if only briefly), loathed by Democrats and rebuked by fellow Republicans for defying tradition.

At the GOP leadership's behest, Wilson called the White House that night to apologize. Heavy volume knocked out Wilson's web site and phone lines the next day and his Democratic opponent, Rob Miller, reported $400,000 in new contributions in less than 24 hours (one hastily created web site blasting the Congressman — with the web address "Joe Wilson is Your Preexisting Condition" — included a link to donate to Miller). But to the reform plan's most combative opponents, Wilson emerged as something of a hero. His Facebook page registered 1,200 comments, many of them strongly supporting his outburst and criticizing him only for backing down. A Facebook user named Bugs wrote, "We need to find an antidote to the Obama Kool-aid. You go, Joe!"

2 comments:

libhom said...

Wilson just couldn't quietly listen to a President who isn't 100% lily white. It's taboo to say it, but everyone knows it's the truth.

Sherry at EX Marks the Spot said...

Interesting post. I posted about Joe Wilson, my friend for 39 years, also. It's at http://www.lipstickelection.blogspot.com.

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